AF8

Looking for tboughts on AF8, how long did it take you to do the coursework? How easy/hard did you find it? Any hints or tips for doing it. I'm currently on mat leave so looking to start it before I go back to work early next year and hoping to complete it within 6-8 months or is that unrealistic? TIA
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  • RossAllisonRossAllison Member
    edited October 2019
    Doing it just now, I passed the first assignment but I'm finding the 2nd very difficult because the instructions the CII give are so vauge. I had also planned to do it 6 months but it's taking me much longer.

    I would say make sure you have access to a cashflow modelling tool and asset allocation tool before enrolling.
  • Thats great thanks for the input.
  • I'm planning on doing this but not sure when. A number of factors are influencing my decision:

    • Lack of time
    • How the model answer came from a 2 line question (I've looked at the examples on the CII website!)
    • The issues a lot of people seem to be having with this qualification

    I'm a bit of masochist though, so probably 2020 if AF7 and PTPA results go to plan!!

  • Thanks Andy, I'm seeing it as a slightly easier alternative to an exam right now as with new baby and child I can fit it in easier around nursery runs etc without the deadline of sitting an actual exam. Hoping it keeps my brain active whilst not actually at work 😁Also it gives me the credits I need to apply for Fellowship too. I haven't done Af7 yet but that will be on next year's agenda.
  • Hi,

    I submitted and passed the 3 assignments within 5 months and I have two children and work almost full time so definitely achievable I think. Hopefully your baby will be a good sleeper!

    Can’t say I found it that enjoyable or learnt a lot and there was a distinct lack of feedback from the CII with a basic grade given for each criteria. Having just sat two AFs last week however I am romanticising how much I preferred AF8 just now 😆.
  • Jules many thanks for the feedback. good luck with your results
  • @julesstewart1983 said:
    Hi,

    I submitted and passed the 3 assignments within 5 months and I have two children and work almost full time so definitely achievable I think. Hopefully your baby will be a good sleeper!

    Can’t say I found it that enjoyable or learnt a lot and there was a distinct lack of feedback from the CII with a basic grade given for each criteria. Having just sat two AFs last week however I am romanticising how much I preferred AF8 just now 😆.

    Hi, did you use cash flow software in your 3 assignments. I didn’t use any in J09, but not sure if it’s needed in this or not. Thanks John

  • Hi John, yes I used Prestwood Truth and the Timeline App for the third assignment, and some of assignment one from memory. I think it is recommended so you could even get a free trial to Cashcalc if you don’t use any just now.

  • If you are an in-house paraplanner with an adviser that uses Cashcalc you can get a free paraplanner licence

  • I am hoping to start AF8 in the new year, has any one used the likes of expert pensions or any study guides.
    Expert pension is expensive, but if its worth it then I don't mind paying! Did anyone need additional support for AF8

    Thanks!

  • Expert Pensions does have a higher cost than other training providers, but when you look at what is included you will see that they are actually very good value for money. I signed up for their AF7 and that gives you access to a condensed study text, loads of videos and live workshops, plus access to chat forums so you can discuss things with other students and also the guys at EP

  • @Rwood93 said:
    I am hoping to start AF8 in the new year, has any one used the likes of expert pensions or any study guides.
    Expert pension is expensive, but if its worth it then I don't mind paying! Did anyone need additional support for AF8

    Thanks!

    I passed AF8 a couple of months ago. Found it much harder than anticipated because of the lack of guidance. Ended up scraping through with marks of 50-50-50 for the assignments.

    I paid for the expert pensions course after the first assignment came back. It's expensive but with the costs or remarking and possibility of failing altogether I thought it was worth it.

  • @Katier said:

    @Rwood93 said:
    I am hoping to start AF8 in the new year, has any one used the likes of expert pensions or any study guides.
    Expert pension is expensive, but if its worth it then I don't mind paying! Did anyone need additional support for AF8

    Thanks!

    I passed AF8 a couple of months ago. Found it much harder than anticipated because of the lack of guidance. Ended up scraping through with marks of 50-50-50 for the assignments.

    I paid for the expert pensions course after the first assignment came back. It's expensive but with the costs or remarking and possibility of failing altogether I thought it was worth it.

    Thanks @Katier

    Everyone seems to be saying the same for AF8! I suppose when you look at it like that it makes sense. Kinda undecided about it now.... maybe stick with the exam ones to get the points in!

  • @Katier said:

    @Rwood93 said:
    I am hoping to start AF8 in the new year, has any one used the likes of expert pensions or any study guides.
    Expert pension is expensive, but if its worth it then I don't mind paying! Did anyone need additional support for AF8

    Thanks!

    I passed AF8 a couple of months ago. Found it much harder than anticipated because of the lack of guidance. Ended up scraping through with marks of 50-50-50 for the assignments.

    I paid for the expert pensions course after the first assignment came back. It's expensive but with the costs or remarking and possibility of failing altogether I thought it was worth it.

    Much the same as me. The highest I got was 53 I think, and had to resubmit a couple of assignments. I scraped through with a 50 on my 3rd assignment after the deadline.

    Found it very difficult to understand what was really wanted, and had identical feedback for both a failed assignment and a passed assignment. That left me pretty exasperated.

    I regret missing exam sittings by focusing on this. Naturally a high share of the responsibility falls to me for how it went but given how expensive it is, the cost of retakes and the lack of guidance, and the seeming need for external support, I'd caution anyone to really think it over before going for this. Or instead do the CFP, which I understand to be valuable from a learning perspective, and which I'll do when I get my advanced diploma.

  • @Rwood93 said:
    I am hoping to start AF8 in the new year, has any one used the likes of expert pensions or any study guides.
    Expert pension is expensive, but if its worth it then I don't mind paying! Did anyone need additional support for AF8

    Thanks!

    Hi RWood, i'm looking at starting AF8 in the new year too. Maybe we could go halves and purchase something together ? Drop me an email [email protected]

  • Hi all,

    I have a log in for expert pensions with an active enrolment for the AF8 guidance. I would be happy to share this with you if it helps anyone. Just email me if you would like my log in - [email protected]

    I would echo what @Pedro has said above I would avoid this unless absolutely necessary. The guidance is pretty much non existent and feedback is pointless. I asked why the feedback is generic and its because the case studies you will be working on are still 'live' and therefore if they gave case specific feedback (like they can with exams) then this would be circulated in no time. For this reason paying for feedback is both pointless and a waste of money.

    I am currently waiting for my third assignment result (second attempt) but my enrolment has run out now so its all or nothing for me! So everything crossed really. But if I fail I don't think I will go through this again as it's not fun at all. Which is frustrating as if I get this then I will finally be chartered.

    But if anyone has any questions, if I can help I am happy to and like I say also happy to share my log in for expert pensions too :smile:

    Good luck to everyone doing it, hopefully you find it better/easier than I did

  • @sdeighton said:

    @Rwood93 said:
    I am hoping to start AF8 in the new year, has any one used the likes of expert pensions or any study guides.
    Expert pension is expensive, but if its worth it then I don't mind paying! Did anyone need additional support for AF8

    Thanks!

    Hi RWood, i'm looking at starting AF8 in the new year too. Maybe we could go halves and purchase something together ? Drop me an email [email protected]

    Sorry Late reply! Yeah that would be good :)

  • I'm just starting AF8 now - feeling a bit lost to be honest - not much guidance as to what makes a successful/unsuccessful submission. Any tips offered would be much appreciated!

  • @Rwood93 said:

    @sdeighton said:

    @Rwood93 said:
    I am hoping to start AF8 in the new year, has any one used the likes of expert pensions or any study guides.
    Expert pension is expensive, but if its worth it then I don't mind paying! Did anyone need additional support for AF8

    Thanks!

    Hi RWood, i'm looking at starting AF8 in the new year too. Maybe we could go halves and purchase something together ? Drop me an email [email protected]

    Sorry Late reply! Yeah that would be good :)

    ooh - if you haven't already purchased - I'd be happy to go thirds on this too?

  • @RachelHalton said:

    @Rwood93 said:

    @sdeighton said:

    @Rwood93 said:
    I am hoping to start AF8 in the new year, has any one used the likes of expert pensions or any study guides.
    Expert pension is expensive, but if its worth it then I don't mind paying! Did anyone need additional support for AF8

    Thanks!

    Hi RWood, i'm looking at starting AF8 in the new year too. Maybe we could go halves and purchase something together ? Drop me an email [email protected]

    Sorry Late reply! Yeah that would be good :)

    ooh - if you haven't already purchased - I'd be happy to go thirds on this too?

    Yeah I haven't bought anything yet :)

  • Hi all, I didn't end up starting AF8 yet due to personal circumstances. How are you getting on, would you recommend it as a good one to start with for the diploma? Thanks

  • Hi all, i'm sadly also enrolled onto AF8. I have just passed assignment one however question 2 is so vague its pretty much impossible to know what there looking for to gain a pass. Has anyone any any feedback or experiences on this.

    Thanks :smile:

  • @J_Manning said:
    Hi all,

    I have a log in for expert pensions with an active enrolment for the AF8 guidance. I would be happy to share this with you if it helps anyone. Just email me if you would like my log in - [email protected]

    I would echo what @Pedro has said above I would avoid this unless absolutely necessary. The guidance is pretty much non existent and feedback is pointless. I asked why the feedback is generic and its because the case studies you will be working on are still 'live' and therefore if they gave case specific feedback (like they can with exams) then this would be circulated in no time. For this reason paying for feedback is both pointless and a waste of money.

    I am currently waiting for my third assignment result (second attempt) but my enrolment has run out now so its all or nothing for me! So everything crossed really. But if I fail I don't think I will go through this again as it's not fun at all. Which is frustrating as if I get this then I will finally be chartered.

    But if anyone has any questions, if I can help I am happy to and like I say also happy to share my log in for expert pensions too :smile:

    Good luck to everyone doing it, hopefully you find it better/easier than I did

    Hi Jackie,

    How did you the re submission go, hoping you squeezed a pass!

    I would be interested to get you views on the content required for question 2 as the question is so vague!

  • dd17dd17 Member

    Hi Guys,

    Struggling with AF8, failed assignment 1 and the resub. Any advice...

  • Hi all, I am now enrolled and having a go at Assignment 1 whilst in lockdown!

    Does anyone know, are we allowed to reference the study text? Or is it only HMRC/official resources we can reference?

    Hope everyone is keeping safe!
    Sarah

  • Hi all, I have another query if anyone else is doing AF8 at the moment? Do we have to include our calculations within the assignment?

    In other words, am I okay just typing what the IHT liability is and annual allowances for Pensions, or do I need to show how i got to that figure?

    Thanks
    Sarah

  • JumanjiJumanji Member

    @sdeighton said:
    Hi all, I have another query if anyone else is doing AF8 at the moment? Do we have to include our calculations within the assignment?

    In other words, am I okay just typing what the IHT liability is and annual allowances for Pensions, or do I need to show how i got to that figure?

    Thanks
    Sarah

    you can reference anything.

    You should always include workings out no matter what, you'll get a mark or 2 then even if you've made an error (assuming calc/formula was correct )

    For J09, I am putting every thing in, even if it seems pointless and obvious.

  • you can reference anything.

    You should always include workings out no matter what, you'll get a mark or 2 then even if you've made an error (assuming calc/formula was correct )

    For J09, I am putting every thing in, even if it seems pointless and obvious.

    Thanks for that! I will include it. Although, I seem to be significantly higher on my wordcount at the moment so I was hoping to save a few words by leaving it out! Will have to go through and delete and waffle!

    Thanks

  • JumanjiJumanji Member

    @sdeighton said:

    you can reference anything.

    You should always include workings out no matter what, you'll get a mark or 2 then even if you've made an error (assuming calc/formula was correct )

    For J09, I am putting every thing in, even if it seems pointless and obvious.

    Thanks for that! I will include it. Although, I seem to be significantly higher on my wordcount at the moment so I was hoping to save a few words by leaving it out! Will have to go through and delete and waffle!

    Thanks

    I put my calcs in table format, as they say words in tables do not count. However, I am yet to have any back, so take that with a pinch of salt.

  • adam_mccadam_mcc Member

    I'm struggling big time with AF8 - passed assignment 1 by 4 marks, and have now failed the 2nd assignment by 9 marks, and feedback codes on both exam results are identical. I'm struggling to figure out whether I have completely missed the point of the question, or if not where I am going wrong! Has anyone found any useful resources online?

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